Submitted by njvictoron May 30th, 2023 at 2:39 PM
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On 5/22, there was an update to the Top247 Football Recruit Rankings and I'd thought I'd share how some of our guys have trended:
QB Jadyn Davis: #28 -> #29
TE Brady Prieskorn: #95 -> #145
RB Jordan Marshall: #176 -> #193
OT Andrew Sprague: #133 -> #106
OL Blake Frazier: #444 -> #192
S Jacob Oden: #188 -> #211
TE Hogan Hansen: #117 -> #107
DE/DT Jerod Smith: #230 -> #142
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Amazinblu
May 30th, 2023 at 2:47 PM^
Eight top 300 players. I don't know how that tracks historically - but, I'd guess it's the foundation of a solid class. I wonder how Nike's Elite 11 QB camp will turn out - and, whether that will impact Jadyn Davis' ranking. (Of course, the Elite 11 will actually have 12 QB's this season.)
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UNCWolverine
May 30th, 2023 at 9:11 PM^
It’s always 12 quarterbacks. I lived very close to the event and attended several years. Cool to look back at the players I saw back then.
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bsand2053
May 31st, 2023 at 4:40 AM^
I’d love to hear more, if you have time to spare!
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Andystubs
May 31st, 2023 at 11:15 AM^
Is it in Redondo Beach again this year?
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mGrowOld
May 30th, 2023 at 2:53 PM^
Please help a confused old man out.
1. Is the first number their current or revised grade?
2. Why is Davis listed at #26 nationally (first player) when clicking on your hyper-link and not either 28 or 29 as stated in the post?
3. Kinda same question with Marshall. On the hyper-link page he's listed at 89 nationally but in your post he's 176 - 193.
I didnt look any further as it was clear I must be doing something very wrong here.
Edit: Thanks!
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Underhill's Gold
May 30th, 2023 at 2:56 PM^
1. left is old, right is new.
2. The numbers at the link are composite rankings. The numbers in the OP should be 247's own site ratings.
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WoodleyIsBeast
May 30th, 2023 at 2:56 PM^
First number is the previous grade.
Jadyn is now 29th in the 247 rankings and 26th in the composite(average of 247, Rivals and ESPN rankings)
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zh2oson
May 30th, 2023 at 2:54 PM^
"Jayden Davis drops in new 247 rankings" would have been a fantastic thread title.
Missed opportunity.
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M Ascending
May 31st, 2023 at 8:09 AM^
"Jadyn Davis drops precipitously..." would have been even better.
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WoodleyIsBeast
May 30th, 2023 at 2:54 PM^
Really thrilled with where we are at on May 30th. Combine another successful fall with being able to be more selective on higher ranked players.....Good situation!
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Wallaby Court
May 30th, 2023 at 2:59 PM^
All of the movement looks...fine?
QB Jadyn Davis: #28 -> #29 - Defying rankings gravity is almost like moving up the rankings.
TE Brady Prieskorn: #95 -> #145 - Looks like rankings gravity, but maybe tilted towards an actual drop.
RB Jordan Marshall: #176 -> #193 - Just gravity.
OT Andrew Sprague: #133 -> #106 - Upward movement is good movement.
OL Blake Frazier: #444 -> #192 - Michigan miiiiiiiight be good at identifying OL recruits.
S Jacob Oden: #188 -> #211 - Just gravity.
TE Hogan Hansen: #117 -> #107 - Upward movement is good movement.
DE/DT Jerod Smith: #230 -> #142 - Upward movement is good movement.
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oriental andrew
May 30th, 2023 at 3:18 PM^
Previous Average: 176
New Average: 141
Previous Median: 155
New Median: 144
Overall, a stronger class as far as ratings go. Ratings blah blah blah, but good stuff if you're a stargazer.
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Unsalted
May 30th, 2023 at 3:35 PM^
All rating gains are good ratings, all rating loses are...
Never mind, wrong phone book.
Thanks for calculating the old and new means and averages.
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oriental andrew
May 30th, 2023 at 3:49 PM^
Thanks for calculating the old and new means and averages.
Who wants to tell him??
/thatguy
/jk
/nerd
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Wallaby Court
May 30th, 2023 at 3:55 PM^
I tried out a few variations of this joke for my top level reply but couldn't quite get it to work. I'm glad you had more tenacity than me.
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Don
May 30th, 2023 at 10:10 PM^
All ratings increases are good and accurate.
All ratings declines are just gravity so its an unexplainable and inscrutable manifestation of the universe that means nothing.
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Wallaby Court
May 30th, 2023 at 4:00 PM^
It's also a good sign if you subscribe to Seth's theory of ratings "velocity": Recruits that move up the rankings late rarely rise as high as they should and recruits that fall down the rankings late rarely drop as much as they should. The 2023 cycle is still relatively young, but none of Michigan's recruits look likely to tumble down the rankings. Most of the downward movement looks like regular rankings gravity. Only Brady Prieskorn's drop looks like it could be something more than newer or shinier recruits getting moved up.
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goblue12820
May 30th, 2023 at 4:28 PM^
Also of note on Prieskorn, he doesn't do the camp circuit. Right or wrong it tends to hurt you in the rankings.
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Watching From Afar
May 31st, 2023 at 10:06 AM^
Only Brady Prieskorn's drop looks like it could be something more than newer or shinier recruits getting moved up.
Worth noting, Hogan Hansen is above Prieskorn now given the drop. So even if he's dropping for "a reason" they still have another TE that is sticking near the top 100. Hansen is 107th now.
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HAIL 2 VICTORS
May 30th, 2023 at 8:18 PM^
Insert Asians > at Math bias here.
I will see myself out.
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Denard In Space
May 30th, 2023 at 3:35 PM^
I think the second Frazier's film was posted on this board most of us knew there was no way he is not a top-150 player. Dude was mauling elite competition like he was Kramer in karate class.
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FauxMo
May 30th, 2023 at 5:12 PM^
Yeah, no Frasier has gotten a bump up like that since Kelsey Grammer in 1993.
#1990sSitComHumor
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It'sNotAToomer
May 30th, 2023 at 3:35 PM^
"All movement is good movement. -Wayne Gretsky"
-Michael Scott
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WindyCityBlue
May 30th, 2023 at 5:39 PM^
Including bowel movements
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HAIL 2 VICTORS
May 30th, 2023 at 8:19 PM^
That is a crap thing to say.
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May 31st, 2023 at 8:27 AM^
It's an MGoPoo thing to say
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GoBlue1530
May 30th, 2023 at 3:49 PM^
Would never claim to be a talent evaluator, Jeremiah Beasley going from 13th ranked linebacker on 247 to the 26th feels a bitttt steep.
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Qmatic
May 30th, 2023 at 4:52 PM^
I’m pretty new to On3 but I know they’ve spent a lot to get their brand out there. Does their composite ranking incorporate 4 services (247, Rivals, ESPN, and On3)? If so, is that the new composite to look to?
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meeashagin
May 30th, 2023 at 7:55 PM^
Yes.
I'm not sure if they do what 247 (40-50%) does though which is put more weight into their own rankings.
Also, I think On3 doesn't do positional value so their QBs won't be rated as high, overall, relative to other sites.
It makes sense that 247 would favor their rankings as its been proven that they're the most accurate though I realize On3 is fairly new.
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blueandmaizeballs
May 30th, 2023 at 8:37 PM^
Pretty sure On3 does 32 five stars for the 32 first round picks also.
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blueandmaizeballs
May 30th, 2023 at 8:36 PM^
Someone can correct if I am wrong but pretty sure the other day I read ESPN is 10%,while Rivals is 20%and 247 is 30% and On3 is 40%. I could be wrong but I am sure of the ESPN number for sure.
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King Tot
May 30th, 2023 at 11:26 PM^
I just don't like On3 for some reason.
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jdib
May 30th, 2023 at 9:26 PM^
Having 2 stellar TEs in this class excites me the most
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Eastside Maize
May 31st, 2023 at 4:09 AM^
We’re about to have a lot commits for the Defense in June! Hold on to your butts!!
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tpilews
May 31st, 2023 at 10:19 AM^
How the hell is Manuel Beigel still ranked so low? Dude picked up Penn State, Texas A&M, and Georgia offers in April. Last update, 247 dropped him just days before those offers came in.
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